11-12-2012, 11:12 AM
Against most random run of the mill bad guys i dont bother with hit locations too much since i dont give them critical hits, they just die when at zero wounds, the main problem I've had so far with the bad guys i do use critical results on is that they dont confirm with the usual hit tables due to extra limbs or body shape lol. It's a very useful skill if you spot weak points on a target or want to take it alive and with the move in the next few adventures towards more humanoid bad guys it will probably see more use unless you're still using your storm bolter to spray :-p.
Technically you can only heal one point of critical damage how ever we tend to just have a successful heal put them back on zero wounds but some critical effects will still be in force, eg if your leg was blown off, its still gone .
Squad and solo mode abilities all have their own time taken to use, some are free actions, some require a half or more actions.
Plasma guns are powerful however theres no specific mention that they specifically go through terminator armour, infact 40k literature is full of stories of terminators surviving plasma and even being used as a walking shield against such weapons. plasma guns are anti light armour and heavy infantry, terminators count as "super"heavy infantry. Plasma guns on maximal setting will do 2D10 +9 damage and negate 10 points of a terminators 14 armour, so they do good a job at cutting through it with an average roll of 20 damage being reduced by an average of 12 ( 4 armour and 8 toughness bonus) . Plasma guns in 40K have always been recharging till very recently, the maximal settings represents what people see as the traditional plasma gun firing, normal setting is just a lower damage but gives you a shot every turn.
Melta guns do 2D10+8 with a pen of 13 so they cut through terminator very well so not sure what the complaint is there.
Dont for get we are only talking about the special versions of these types not the heavy weapon versions and terminators are supposed to stand up to small weapons fire.
The problem is people are ignoring the effect of penetration, look back at the boss fight tuesday, you guys firing bolters were finding that most of your shots were bouncing off and not doing damage to it, if you'd been have been firing plasma guns on maximal or melta weapons then you'd only have needed a slightly better than average roll to hurt the robot. So your storm bolter was getting upto 8 hits but normally only 2 were actually inflicting damage, were as about half of plasma hits would have done damage and with a melta gun over 75% of hits would have done damage. If you'd then used those weapons tactically and aimed for legs or other diasabling actions the lower fire rate would have not been the slightest problem. A few points of extra penertration may not seem like much but when you start looking at the statistics involved they can change a fight immensly .
Technically you can only heal one point of critical damage how ever we tend to just have a successful heal put them back on zero wounds but some critical effects will still be in force, eg if your leg was blown off, its still gone .
Squad and solo mode abilities all have their own time taken to use, some are free actions, some require a half or more actions.
Plasma guns are powerful however theres no specific mention that they specifically go through terminator armour, infact 40k literature is full of stories of terminators surviving plasma and even being used as a walking shield against such weapons. plasma guns are anti light armour and heavy infantry, terminators count as "super"heavy infantry. Plasma guns on maximal setting will do 2D10 +9 damage and negate 10 points of a terminators 14 armour, so they do good a job at cutting through it with an average roll of 20 damage being reduced by an average of 12 ( 4 armour and 8 toughness bonus) . Plasma guns in 40K have always been recharging till very recently, the maximal settings represents what people see as the traditional plasma gun firing, normal setting is just a lower damage but gives you a shot every turn.
Melta guns do 2D10+8 with a pen of 13 so they cut through terminator very well so not sure what the complaint is there.
Dont for get we are only talking about the special versions of these types not the heavy weapon versions and terminators are supposed to stand up to small weapons fire.
The problem is people are ignoring the effect of penetration, look back at the boss fight tuesday, you guys firing bolters were finding that most of your shots were bouncing off and not doing damage to it, if you'd been have been firing plasma guns on maximal or melta weapons then you'd only have needed a slightly better than average roll to hurt the robot. So your storm bolter was getting upto 8 hits but normally only 2 were actually inflicting damage, were as about half of plasma hits would have done damage and with a melta gun over 75% of hits would have done damage. If you'd then used those weapons tactically and aimed for legs or other diasabling actions the lower fire rate would have not been the slightest problem. A few points of extra penertration may not seem like much but when you start looking at the statistics involved they can change a fight immensly .
No you are right I dont need any more models......but it's so shiney
40K & WFB - Chaos daemons, BFG - Imperial, Warmachine - Cygnar,Retribution and Skorne. Blood Bowl - Chaos,dwarves,humans.
40K & WFB - Chaos daemons, BFG - Imperial, Warmachine - Cygnar,Retribution and Skorne. Blood Bowl - Chaos,dwarves,humans.