Chaos Space Marines CAD
HQ
Sorcerer, Mastery Level 3, bike, bolt pistol, force axe, spell familiar, Sigil of Corruption (Warlord) (170 pts)
Sorcerer, Mastery Level 3, bike, bolt pistol, force stave, spell familiar, Sigil of Corruption (170 pts)
Troops
Chaos Cultists (50 pts)
Chaos Cultists (50 pts)
Fast Attack
4x Chaos Spawn with Mark of Nurgle (144 pts)
4x Chaos Spawn with Mark of Nurgle (144 pts)
Heldrake with Baleflamer (170 pts)
Heavy Support
Maulerfiend with Magma cutters (125 pts)
Maulerfiend with Lasher Tendrils (135 pts)
Fortification
Imperial Bunker with Void Shield (80 pts)
Chaos Daemons Allied Detachment
HQ
Be'Lakor (350 pts)
Troops
11x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
Fast Attack
10x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
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So basic plan is to be quite aggressive with the list, it's fast and can move around the board quite quickly. I'll usually throw Be'Lakor up front with the hounds, Invis the hounds, and the sorcerers will each go with a unit of spawn. The pink horrors will chill out in the bunker, which I'll try to deploy on or near an objective. They're mostly there as a warp charge battery, but might do a little summoning if they get the chance. The sorcerers will fish for invisibility and shrouding to protect my army and aim for having two invis up most of the time on my units. C&C welcome. I do worry about my lack of "punch" in CC, relying on invis to essentially just tie up the enemy with things like spawn and flesh hounds. I was thinking of maybe subbing out Be'Lakor with the D' Thirster possibly. Cultists will hide in reserve.
Sounds scary, no idea what most of it does!
(10-04-2016, 07:36 PM)jaqenhgar Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds scary, no idea what most of it does!
Likewise!
(10-04-2016, 07:02 PM)Agent0range Wrote: [ -> ]Chaos Space Marines CAD
HQ
Sorcerer, Mastery Level 3, bike, bolt pistol, force axe, spell familiar, Sigil of Corruption (Warlord) (170 pts)
Sorcerer, Mastery Level 3, bike, bolt pistol, force stave, spell familiar, Sigil of Corruption (170 pts)
Troops
Chaos Cultists (50 pts)
Chaos Cultists (50 pts)
Fast Attack
4x Chaos Spawn with Mark of Nurgle (144 pts)
4x Chaos Spawn with Mark of Nurgle (144 pts)
Heldrake with Baleflamer (170 pts)
Heavy Support
Maulerfiend with Magma cutters (125 pts)
Maulerfiend with Lasher Tendrils (135 pts)
Fortification
Imperial Bunker with Void Shield (80 pts)
Chaos Daemons Allied Detachment
HQ
Be'Lakor (350 pts)
Troops
11x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
Fast Attack
10x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
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the spawn units are good for killing weak infantry, and the mauler fiends can chew though tanks and tough units, not sure about the hounds but they are a khrone unit, so they should be solid damage dealers.
With 3 casters going for invisibility, you should be able to get it off, hopefully drawing people's dice away to summon more daemons with your pink horrors.
Alas you have almost no shooting with this list, so just hope there's enough terrain to cover your advance to weather the shooty lists.
(10-04-2016, 09:44 PM)jjakaalbinoboy Wrote: [ -> ] (10-04-2016, 07:36 PM)jaqenhgar Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds scary, no idea what most of it does!
Likewise!
That's kind of what I'm hoping, is that some advantage will be gained by relatively unknown units.
(10-04-2016, 11:24 PM)Cookie101 Wrote: [ -> ]*snip*
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, there's no shooting at all really. My plan is for invisibility/shrouding and terrain to protect me. The army moves very fast too, so most of my units should be engaged in turn 2 in CC. Almost everything can move 12". The Heldrake is to keep biker superfiend type lists in check, and thin some of them out. Flesh hounds are pretty good. They're two wounds each and have a fair number of attacks, so with invisibility they can last a while and hold their own in combat.
My real problem will be knights. I know that two maulers and Be'Lakor should do it but I've yet to successfully take down a Knight by combo charging with those three units.
Love fast aggressive lists!
I do worry about what damage will be caused in combat, don't know enough about Chaos to really suggest changes, but maybe a lord on jugg to add some punch. Going down to 2 stars, 1 supported by Bel'Kor and the other by a Sorcerer going for Invis and the Maulerfiends?
So, an update to my original list now the knight renegade box is out, and I've got a few games in:
Chaos Space Marines CAD
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Sorcerer, Mastery Level 3, bike, bolt pistol, force axe, spell familiar, Sigil of Corruption, Meltabombs (Warlord) (175 pts)
Troops
Chaos Cultists (50 pts)
Chaos Cultists (50 pts)
Fast Attack
5x Chaos Spawn with Mark of Nurgle (144 pts)
Heldrake with Baleflamer (170 pts)
Heavy Support
Maulerfiend with Magma cutters (125 pts)
Maulerfiend with Magma cutters (125 pts)
Fortification
Imperial Bunker (55 pts)
Chaos Daemons Allied Detachment
HQ
Be'Lakor (350 pts)
Troops
11x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
Fast Attack
9x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
Renegade Knight Forsworn Detatchment
Knight Gallant w/Chainsword and Thunderstrike Gauntlet (325 pts)
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In the few games I've played with it, I like the board control the knight gives me, it takes some heat off the maulerfiends and bullies people into a corner letting the rest of my army run about largely unmolested. Any thoughts/comments/suggestions very welcome.
Yeah I thought the knight was a good addition. When I played you I didn't really see why be'lakor is 350pts - basically is he worth it, could you get a cheaper flying thing and spend the extra points on something shooty? Maybe some of those tzeentch flamer things? I thought the sorcerer with the spawn was great for keeping him alive. Basically looking back at the game it was the heldrake and the knight that did the most damage for you.
Belakor is great, assuming you're casting Invis on the knight? and giving shrouding to the Maulerfiends?
The Knight is a great addition, it gives the list some real punch! I would vouch for the Gatling cannon over two combat weapons. The Chainsword gives you D in combat and you have Stomps as well.. Plus the Gatling cannon means you can gun down Warp Spiders/Bike squads etc that will be operating on the fringes of the game.
(03-06-2016, 11:09 AM)Embolden Wrote: [ -> ]Belakor is great, assuming you're casting Invis on the knight? and giving shrouding to the Maulerfiends?
The Knight is a great addition, it gives the list some real punch! I would vouch for the Gatling cannon over two combat weapons. The Chainsword gives you D in combat and you have Stomps as well.. Plus the Gatling cannon means you can gun down Warp Spiders/Bike squads etc that will be operating on the fringes of the game.
Good thinking, I'll see if I can squeeze the gatling canon in! Yeah I'm usually putting invis on my picket line of hounds and either the knight or a maulerfiend. Be'lakor flubbed a few psychic rolls I think in the game against Chris, so seemed to do very little. Had him gunned down by bolters in another game against Terry, so I think I might just keep him flying in the air doing his thing with invis and psychic shreik/shrouded.